In this open, audience-led fireside conversation, Jaz Ampaw-Farr and Amjad Ali explore leadership, belonging and social mobility through the lens of what truly creates long-term impact for schools and young people. Drawing on lived experience and leadership across diverse contexts, the conversation lifts the lid on what sits behind the public narratives of leadership: the decisions, tensions and moments that quietly shape culture, opportunity and belonging. With honesty, humour and generosity, Jaz and Amjad reflect on how leaders create schools where ambition and humanity can coexist. The format is conversational and unfiltered, with space for audience questions and shared reflection. Leaders will leave with fresh perspective and practical insight. If you’ve seen Jaz or Amjad speak before, you’ll know you’re in for a treat.